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	<title>Comments on: Al Franken comes under fire for grassroots fundraising</title>
	<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/</link>
	<description>stating the obvious</description>
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		<title>By: barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17553</link>
		<author>barbara</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17553</guid>
		<description>Meanwhile, should I be alarmed that Noah seems to have gone missing?  Did Bush Republican Michael Brodkorb decare a fatwah on him? If Noah has no electricity, is his place bugged with a tin can and a string?  Inquiring mind wants to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, should I be alarmed that Noah seems to have gone missing?  Did Bush Republican Michael Brodkorb decare a fatwah on him? If Noah has no electricity, is his place bugged with a tin can and a string?  Inquiring mind wants to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gisleson</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17470</link>
		<author>Mark Gisleson</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17470</guid>
		<description>Kerosene Hat, you'll have to send me that link as I'm completely unaware of anyone who's been talking about this other than me on my blog, and in my Daily Kos diary. I am, not by a longshot, a frontpage contributor to DKos.

And my irritation stemmed from the netroots making an early endorsement in a contested race between equally qualified progressive candidates. My remarks were less about taking sides than they were protesting the process and the wisdom of such a move.

I'm not surprised that some have chosen to make more out my comments than were there, but good luck hanging any of these "facts" around anyone's neck come next fall. 

This is a minor squabble early on in a long primary contest. If Mr. Brodkorb wants to get all worked up every time we have one of these spats, he'll run out of exclamation marks and ALL CAPS indignation long before the real election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerosene Hat, you&#8217;ll have to send me that link as I&#8217;m completely unaware of anyone who&#8217;s been talking about this other than me on my blog, and in my Daily Kos diary. I am, not by a longshot, a frontpage contributor to DKos.</p>
<p>And my irritation stemmed from the netroots making an early endorsement in a contested race between equally qualified progressive candidates. My remarks were less about taking sides than they were protesting the process and the wisdom of such a move.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that some have chosen to make more out my comments than were there, but good luck hanging any of these &#8220;facts&#8221; around anyone&#8217;s neck come next fall. </p>
<p>This is a minor squabble early on in a long primary contest. If Mr. Brodkorb wants to get all worked up every time we have one of these spats, he&#8217;ll run out of exclamation marks and ALL CAPS indignation long before the real election.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Quimby</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17463</link>
		<author>Charlie Quimby</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17463</guid>
		<description>The "Daily Kos" diary was actually written by local blogger Mark Gisleson. 

I'm not surprised Michael would pounce on what Mark says, but I wonder if he's actually investigating the supposition, or if it serves his purposes better to report the "fact" that someone is speculating.

And we know how careful Michael is with the facts, which is why this statement is puzzling: "Franken’s campaign may be following the letter of the law, but it doesn’t change the FACT they MAY BE artificially padding his donor base with Minnesotans." [Emphasis mine.]

How can it be a fact that someone may be doing doing something? Oh, yeah, never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Daily Kos&#8221; diary was actually written by local blogger Mark Gisleson. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised Michael would pounce on what Mark says, but I wonder if he&#8217;s actually investigating the supposition, or if it serves his purposes better to report the &#8220;fact&#8221; that someone is speculating.</p>
<p>And we know how careful Michael is with the facts, which is why this statement is puzzling: &#8220;Franken’s campaign may be following the letter of the law, but it doesn’t change the FACT they MAY BE artificially padding his donor base with Minnesotans.&#8221; [Emphasis mine.]</p>
<p>How can it be a fact that someone may be doing doing something? Oh, yeah, never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: brandy</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17322</link>
		<author>brandy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17322</guid>
		<description>OK. I get it. So Franken figured out a way for people to actually pay money for campaign $hit. Now everyone else is jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I get it. So Franken figured out a way for people to actually pay money for campaign $hit. Now everyone else is jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17266</link>
		<author>Kerosene Hat</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17266</guid>
		<description>Oh, and Barbara it was not originally Michael that was miffed.  It was the mighty Liberal Daily KOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Barbara it was not originally Michael that was miffed.  It was the mighty Liberal Daily KOS.</p>
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		<title>By: barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17260</link>
		<author>barbara</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17260</guid>
		<description>It seems to me the bottom line here is that Michael Brodkorb is miffed because Al Franken is attracting small donors (not to be confused with leprechauns) in Minnesota. I think Republicans do not grasp that there really is such a thing, given that their base is donors with deep pockets, long arms and disdain for lesser beings.
 
I'm having a hard time understanding how people making small, voluntary donations (why else would they buy a Franken button?) constitute "quickly and artificially pad(ding) his donor base with Minnesotans." (Yes, she reads and inwardly digests.) It seems this is an artificial teapot tempest.

Noah, referencing your donor outline above, is the full $102 accurate? Does the purchase of a T-shirt qualify fully as a donation, or is there a provision for goods received, i.e., cost/value of the shirt, with the balance constituting the donation? Just askin'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me the bottom line here is that Michael Brodkorb is miffed because Al Franken is attracting small donors (not to be confused with leprechauns) in Minnesota. I think Republicans do not grasp that there really is such a thing, given that their base is donors with deep pockets, long arms and disdain for lesser beings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having a hard time understanding how people making small, voluntary donations (why else would they buy a Franken button?) constitute &#8220;quickly and artificially pad(ding) his donor base with Minnesotans.&#8221; (Yes, she reads and inwardly digests.) It seems this is an artificial teapot tempest.</p>
<p>Noah, referencing your donor outline above, is the full $102 accurate? Does the purchase of a T-shirt qualify fully as a donation, or is there a provision for goods received, i.e., cost/value of the shirt, with the balance constituting the donation? Just askin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hartman</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17259</link>
		<author>Scott Hartman</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17259</guid>
		<description>I think what Brodkorb is try is trying to say is that Franken may have found a way to quickly and artificially pad his donor base with Minnesotans.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Brodkorb is try is trying to say is that Franken may have found a way to quickly and artificially pad his donor base with Minnesotans.  Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerosene Hat</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17255</link>
		<author>Kerosene Hat</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17255</guid>
		<description>Noah,

He can do both at the same time because not all things artificial are illegal.  Ciresi and others were giving buttons away which means Franken's reported numbers next round will be skewed in comparison.  The assumption is that Franken is not doing this to raise money because the couple thousand dollars he might raise is not a big deal in the over all landscape.  He is doing it only because his current proportion of donations from Minnesota reinforces his image as a carpet bagger that does not represent Minnesotans. If this were not the case he would be charging $2 for buttons when he travels out of state as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah,</p>
<p>He can do both at the same time because not all things artificial are illegal.  Ciresi and others were giving buttons away which means Franken&#8217;s reported numbers next round will be skewed in comparison.  The assumption is that Franken is not doing this to raise money because the couple thousand dollars he might raise is not a big deal in the over all landscape.  He is doing it only because his current proportion of donations from Minnesota reinforces his image as a carpet bagger that does not represent Minnesotans. If this were not the case he would be charging $2 for buttons when he travels out of state as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Honeydog</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17250</link>
		<author>Honeydog</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17250</guid>
		<description>Noah, did you fail reading comprehension 101?  It sure looks like it.  MDE was merely REPORTING what the Daily KOS was complaing about.  The last time I looked, the Daily KOS is another liberal idiot think tank.   If you want to whine about this issue, take it up with the Daily KOS and quit lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah, did you fail reading comprehension 101?  It sure looks like it.  MDE was merely REPORTING what the Daily KOS was complaing about.  The last time I looked, the Daily KOS is another liberal idiot think tank.   If you want to whine about this issue, take it up with the Daily KOS and quit lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Kunin</title>
		<link>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17229</link>
		<author>Noah Kunin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blanked-out.com/2007/08/28/franken-comes-under-fire-for-grassroots-fundraising/#comment-17229</guid>
		<description>Wow, you definitely beat out Mark Drake for doublespeak.  And I know you are a professional media man but given that we are the only two commenting you really don't need to repeat your punchline in every comment.

How &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; Franken simultaneously follow the letter of the law and yet artificially pad his donor base with Minnesotans?

Feel free to fill in the hidden subtext here.  Your thesis rests on the assumption that small contribution amounts are somehow "less real" than larger ones.  I understand your argument - I simply disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you definitely beat out Mark Drake for doublespeak.  And I know you are a professional media man but given that we are the only two commenting you really don&#8217;t need to repeat your punchline in every comment.</p>
<p>How <i>can</i> Franken simultaneously follow the letter of the law and yet artificially pad his donor base with Minnesotans?</p>
<p>Feel free to fill in the hidden subtext here.  Your thesis rests on the assumption that small contribution amounts are somehow &#8220;less real&#8221; than larger ones.  I understand your argument - I simply disagree.</p>
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